Can anyone recommend a decent Wifi phone?
Hi everyone,
I'm putting together a trixbox system as an experiment for my office and I'm looking for decent wifi phones (not combination wifi/cell phones like the Nokia E65) to connect to it. Does anyone have any recommendations for one that has good voice quality and access point hopping? I've looked at the Linksys WIP330, but it seems to have poor reviews.
Also, I wanted to know if there is anyway to do a call-back function on trixbox (where a message appears on the phone, and you have the option to press a pre-set button to automatically call an extension)?
Thanks for all your input.
My personal recommendation is to stay clear of WiFi phones for a few reasons.
1.) Battery life. You are looking at 3-4 hours talk, maybe 20 hours standby...If your lucky.
2.) Interference: If you have anything else wireless in the office you may get this. Its not fun.
The only Pro to such technology is that it is easy to set up and the price is not to steep.
What i use and have tested many of are the Polycom Spectralink KIRK series phones. It runs off of DECT technology. Whats nice about that you may ask?
1.) Well battery life is wonderful. KIRK is 20 hour talk time and 200 hour standby.
2,) There is no interference with other electronics.
Check this post out. It give more incite on the subject and as well has other recommendations on DECT phones.
http://blog.voipsupply.com/mobile-voip/dect-vs-wi-fi-death-match%...
So that is my personal belief.
Thanks.
"decent" and "wi-fi phone" don't go together in the same sentence, IMHO. I think I've tried enough of them, ranging in price from just over $100 to close to $400. All crappy in one way or another.
I've also used Aastra's DECT and Snom's DECT products, and they perform superbly, so I would take a look at either of those solutions. I learn something new at every event I train at, and this time was no different. DECT technology is OEM'd by IP phone manufacturers, predominantly from some German company I don't remember the name of. Good trivia.
I have been using the SNOM M3 Dect phone and love it.
Ethan is correct about the OEM deal unfortunately, because provisioning the SNOM M3 is TOTALLY different from the other SNOM phones and the spec for how to provision the M3 isn't complete or accurate so we haven't been able to fully add it to the endpoint manager yet.
Thank you for all your replies. That's about what I was starting to expect with the Wifi handsets based on the other things I've read. I looked at some of the other posts here about the M3 and I think I'll recommend that we buy a few of those to try out.
Thanks again.
Has anyone tried the Polycom/Spectralink Wifi phones? They are claiming 8 hours of talk time. I've ordered one to test but maybe someone else has testsed the new line that came out.
Dect would be nice but for most of my customers the reason why they want voip is to run around to difference offices, to put a dect system in for one guy just isn't feasible. A good wifi phone really is needed.
The thing about Spectralinks WiFi phone is that you need a SVP server. Its a special server that does QoS on your system. Its not as easy as traditional WiFi, meaning you have your Access Point and your Phone on your network. With their system you will need the SVP server to which if i am not mistaken goes for about $500ish and thats not including the phones or anything to register them too.
It really is in your best interest to go DECT
From what they are saying on their website, the wifi phone will work with any wifi access point.
http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/products/voice/mobile/wi-fi/handset...
SVP is an option for qos, it also support WMM.
A customer asked me to bring this in as a demo because they have two guys that roam between 3 buildings. There is no way they will put out the money for dect, it's cheaper to just get a cell phone. If this 8020 polycom/spectra link phone works, then its worth while.
just to mention we're using cisco ap's via 871w routers, so we can do qos on the wifi side and/or dedicated wifi vlans for the phones if need be.
I could have been misinformed but when talking to Polycom they stated that the SVP server is required and the phones will not work with out it. Please prove me wrong, i would love to sell this to people that do not want to shell out money for DECT, but this is what i was told.
Here. this one has pictures :) J/K
http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/products/voice/mobile/PLC...
SVP is required for enterprise qos... smb use doesn't really need it.
We have tried pretty much all the available wi-fi phones over the years. I love the idea of being able to use wi-fi hotspots all over the globe ... however like ethans I have not found any worth recommending.
The Snom M3 is a different thing altogether. We use them in-house and have rolled them out to customer sites and they really do work very well. A doddle to configure and call quality is second to none. Like others in this thread, I think they are excellent.
While I agree that the DECT phones are certainly viable, depending on your needs, there are a couple of decent wifi phones out there, and there may be compelling reasons to use wifi-based technology - especially in larger installations.
The Spectralink Netlink series is pretty good. They standards-based SIP phones (certified by Digium post-Polycom acquisition) that work well in my experience. The only thing is the SVP server requirement that adds about $450 to the cost of small installation.
More specifically targeted for higher end applications, I would also have a look at the Ascom FreeNET platform and the i75 SIP handset. Ascom most often sells integrated phone / messaging solutions in healthcare, and the cost is significantly higher ($550+ / handset), but the phones are essentially unbreakable (yeah, I said it...) and they roam beautifully, configure easily, and call quality is great.
By the way- the WIP330 from Linksys appears incapable of roaming between access points, in my experience. So it is crap if you have more than one AP. Same goes for most of the other junk cheapo Fisher-Price phones.
Hope that helps,
Josh
popped into a nokia shop and bought their e-51 model with sip technology built in. To my great surprise it works pretty well once set up. The calls are clear, it remembers and re-registers on systems where it has been before and it even supports using the trixbox as a default carrier before switching to cell coverage in such event it doesnt connect to the server.
Ive only been using this for a few weeks, but it has a lot of functionality and works really well rolled up into a small (and importantly to me) thin package. This younger, sexier Nokia is putting the wip 330 into early retirement.
This is by far the best wifi solution i have used thus far.
I see that the M3 has a limitation of eight handsets assigned to one base. Can the Handsets roam between bases? For example if I buy 16 handsets with two bases and put one base on a floor of a building, and the second base on another floor that is not covered by the first, will all handsets work on both floors?
Hey, check out what I just spotted:
http://www.8774e4voip.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=Aastra+3...
This has piqued my interest.
"free Asterisk installation support and training". Ha!
$500 is ridiculous, though that's the going rate for anything decent on the 802.11 side right now.
A little birdie just told me that Polycom, proud owner of Spectralink, has just discontinued the SVP platform. Anyone hear of a replacement? Or are we finally going to get a Netlink platform of some sort that doesn't need that waste-of-a-box?
We had the Linksys Wifi phones (both models). As noted above, they were junk. Battery life was about 3 calls, and Linksys does not sell replacement batteries (at least at the time). Even if the did, the only way to charge them is in the phone, so how you gonna do that while you use the phone with another battery?
I found a good deal on the Nokia wifi phones on a clearance. They have been much better. Still by no means get through the day on a battery, but probably about 20 to 30 minutes talk time ok.
I found the audio quality improved greatly when I set the access point packet size to 1024.
We have 7 access points. When setting up for the Linksys phones, I was told that each AP needed to be on a separate channel. The Linksys phones moved AP to AP without problems. The Nokia phones had problems with that, requiring a reboot to change APs. I set all the APs to the same channel, and now the Nokia roam freely with no problems. I've told my users not to walk to far during a call, but in tests, calls are not dropped when walking to another AP.
I still have no spare batteries or chargers, but since I bought the phones brand new for $140/ea, I guess I can live with it.
Unlike the Linksys 330, the Nokia does not have a browser, so you can't use them where a web login is required for wifi security (like most hotels). That isn't really a problem for our application. The phones don't leave the property.


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