Trixbox Appliance - Fresh Pro Install - Not creating LAN IP

jeffworden
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2008-03-11

I received my Trixbox yesterday with CE and today I loaded it with Pro. With CE is was obtaining a WAN address from my internal network and per the LCD had created a LAN for the IP phones. However, today once Pro was loaded it no longer displays a LAN address just displays "none" and my phones are not getting an address and can't find the server.

All is working fine and I can log in to the system via cp.trixbox.com.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Jeff



jahyde
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try the Pro help area:

try the Pro help area: http://www.trixbox.org/forum/23

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jeffworden
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2008-03-11
I thought this was the pro forum....

To be more specific, it's the 4-port hub card that the Trixbox is not recognizing any longer.



kerryg
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You have to make sure you

You have to make sure you have the latest Pro ISO.



jeffworden
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I just downloaded it

I just downloaded it yesterday.



kerryg
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Well thats just odd then. I

Well thats just odd then. I will try it here by having it disconnected from my network, bringing it up to that point, setting a static IP, plugging it into the regular network and see what happens.



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
My step-by-step from opening

My step-by-step from opening the box:

Mounted into my rack and attached my internal network to the WAN.

Powered on and realized it had CE.

LCD read: LAN 192.168.25.1 WAN 10.20.30.108

Plugged up my external CD ROM- booted Pro ISO

15 minutes later I set my static IP. Looked down @ LAN: none.

LCD is showing version 1.1.3.



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Just a note... even on the

Just a note... even on the cards page of the box it only shows my sangoma T-1 card.



kerryg
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The cards page will only

The cards page will only show TDM cards not network cards.



jeffworden
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Well... do you think I

Well... do you think I should just do a fresh install? If so, do I need to create a new server user/pass for activation?



kerryg
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Always use the same

Always use the same username/password for activation so any changes you make in the CP get synced to the new hardware.



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Ok. I did the reinstall and

Ok. I did the reinstall and still have come up with the same problem. Even after installation when it displays system configuration, it did not show the LAN card. The LAN is still showing "none". This time the server came back and said it could not confirm that my files have been sycned to the server and that I should have support re-sync them.

Do you think I need to get a replacement server? I wish this thing would have just come with Pro loaded and tested. I thought that was the purpose of spending $1700 on a prebuilt system so I would not have problems such as this?

Jeff

Server ID:117135



jeffworden
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Anyone have any advice?

Anyone have any advice?



bubbapcguy
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trouble shooting

Basic stuff remove any PCI cards in the unit
boot it up watch the screen did the eth0 load???

run ifconfig what does it show??

BIOS set to defaults boot without added cards.



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
The only card that has been

The only card that has been added is the Sangoma Card. When it had CE loaded it had both the Sangoma and LAN card installed and working. Keep in mind that this is a Trixbox Appliance so it came from the factory working like a champ. I didn't run in to any of these problems until I switched from CE to PRO.

I will remove the Sangoma card and boot to see if for some reason it will initiate DHCP for the LAN side. it does show the eth0 loading OK.

I will also check the BIOS to see if it has the setting for the boot without added cards but I wouldn't think that the Sangoma T-1 Card would appear if this were the case.



kerryg
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might need to switch

might need to switch positions of the cards. I am burning a Pro 1.1.3 CD right now to test here.



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Kerry - I'm on east coast

Kerry -

I'm on east coast and have already left my office for the day. I will try to switch positions of the cards tomorrow and let you know the outcome. Please let me know what your experience is when burning 1.1.3 and installing with the LAN card in PCI slot 2 and the Sangoma in PCI slot 1. (numbers may be off of the PCI Slots, I just count from the processor out)

PS> This is a "TB-03" .. the p4 512 model from VoIPSupply.com I wish I would have known that I have to request PRO be loaded on the box prior to ordering. At least VoIPLink gives you an option...



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
I switched positions of the

I switched positions of the cards. Since the appliance only comes with 2 PCI slots, all I could do is swap them.

However, it still did not create a LAN IP address.

Did you have any problems when burning a cd and loading it on to a Trixbox Appliance?



bubbapcguy
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nic

quote ............it does show the eth0 loading OK

So if on load it shows the eth0 loading OK then you should have an IP
Did you add a second nic???
Most MB with onboard video do not like for you use th number one PCI slot for a nic or a ZAPtel card

if the board has an onboard nic remove any PCI cards and boot it up



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Bubba - I bought an

Bubba -

I bought an appliance directly from Trixbox. It comes with onboard NIC and a 4-port Switch built in to the system. The system also only comes with 2 PCI slots. One of which is occupied by the 4-port LAN card and the other I had to put my Sangoma T-1 card in. I've swaped the Sangoma card around to both PCI slots and TBPro boots up knowing that the card is there regardless of which PCI slot it is in.

I don't have a choice of being able to boot the system without either card. I need both to make this system work for me.



bubbapcguy
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for testing

well for testing the box you need to remove the cards and boot clean
until you do that it is all guess work

eth0 would be the onboard nic so if you boot up and it gets an IP then you install the 4 port network card and boot up now trouble the card is it being seen and working/
now install the other card...what hapens now.

You must go about this from a tech view and not what you need or want it is what works....
it maybe that you need to go intot he BIOS and assign IRQ's per PCI slot (if the MB supports it)



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Ok. Will do that. I just

Ok. Will do that. I just doesn't make sense that all works fine with CE and not with Pro. I tell you what, It sure doesn't have a benefit of paying 1750 for an appliance and still have to do all this work. I have a much powerful server that I could have thrown all this on if I knew it would have taken this much troubleshooting to get it to work.

I'll let you know the outcome.

Thanks for your help.

P.S. The onboard NIC works fine. That pulls the WAN address from my network. The only problem i'm having is getting the other 4-port to work. All works fine except for that.



bubbapcguy
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changes

There has been some noted changes in the way the CE and Pro set's up
As Kerryg had said he had to swap his card around
A simple IRQ conflict could be the cause of your issue, this is nothing big ang and nothing to be concern with (as long as you can fix it) I see this a good bit with Mother board with onboard eveything.
You should just need to tweak the setup some
Not have used a 4 port lan card in over five years I can not remember the default IRQ
most of the nics want 10 I think so if your PCI card wants 10 you need to force it elsewhere



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Ok... So I had VoIP Supply

Ok... So I had VoIP Supply just send me a new box with Pro installed with the Sangoma card. Reactivated my server with the old user/pass and guess what... no LAN IP.

The system will work if I have everything running off my LAN but I sure as hell didn't just do all this work with Dual drops and buy an extra 48-port Switch to run off of one network.

Kerry - Did you ever have this trouble? I'm through 2 servers now and still have no LAN IP. Again, all works well execpt (DTMF) if it's all running through the WAN, but I'm afraid of my servers, computers, and phones all running off the same network hence the reason I purchased the appliance rather than just throwing it on one of my servers.

Please help. I don't feel that I should have to spend money to call support when I bought an appliance and it doesn't work right.



M2Mcom
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2007-08-18
Question

Do you have a second device pushing DHCP on the second network or how is the second network set up?

From my understanding the Appliance does not act as a DHCP server.

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jeffworden
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2008-03-11
I do not have a second

I do not have a second device pushing DHCP. From everything that I have read, the Trixbox software is supposed to have a "powerful" DHCP server built in to it to push it out.

It's just a segmented network. I have my computers on a single switch and my phones on a separtate switch. My understanding is that this is the "best" way to set up the network with Trixbox or any other IP phone system. Trixbox states in numerous places that the WAN should be plugged in to my computer LAN and that the phones should be on a separate switch and plugged in to the provided LAN switch.

I currently have it set up so that the phones and computers are on 2 different switches but but have the phones tied to my network with prority over the computers so that I can use this system.

However, I have plugged up the LAN card to my server's switch which would push out an address to the card and it will did not register an IP address on the 4-Port LAN card that came with the system.

Like I said, if the system is loaded with CE it generates a LAN IP just fine. It's only when PRO is loaded that it doesn't work. I don't think that its an appliance issue due to the fact that I've now had 2 brand new systems sent to me both with the same problem that no one can seem to tell me how to fix.



bubbapcguy
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nic

Pull the nics into a switch with a DHCP server running on it (NOT TB)

reboot or restart network services

run ifconfig and post the results here



M2Mcom
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2007-08-18
TC CE has a built in DHCP I

TB CE has a built in DHCP I know that much but the mod has to be installed for it to work. Maybe the original install was sent with DHCP running and TB Pro does not.

I have never read that TB Pro has DHCP built in. I know it's not on my Test machine at home. If it did then it would conflict with my router. I also have never seen anywere in the control panel that you can turn it on.

For what your trying to build you really need a Single VLAN QoS switch. That way you can VLAN out the second network.

If you have a small network I would not worry about having the Phones and COmputers on the same network expecially if you want to play around with Soft Phones.

We usually keep them on the same network up to 20 phones then VLAN them off with a 24 port Netgear QoS VLAN switch. If your worried about sound problems I would get a QoS Router and switch and give higher priority to the voice packets.

Just a thought.

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We would love to help you with your trixbox needs in Houston and Surrounding areas.
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skykingoh
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2007-12-17
How can a QoS router have

How can a QoS router have anything to do with Layer 2 LAN traffic?

The Pro customer is right ther is only one way to set this up right. Managed switch, voice VLAN and 802.1q trunking.

That is the way every US is designed to work (Polycom, Cisco, Aastra) and SNOM. The phones will auto discover and provision the voice VLAN.

The easiest way to set this up is one interface for administrative traffic and egress voip and the other for the voice VLAN.

I do not know if Pro allows you to tag VLANS on the Ethernet interfaces.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
It should just work. I have

It should just work. I have tested this on my systems here. I would do a clean install without the Sangoma card in it. If that does not work, send me a PM.



M2Mcom
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2007-08-18
More Thoughts

It sounded to me like he was splitting the network with 2 different switches not one switch. I think that was my point sorry it was late when I posted that. You are right about the setup I just did not make myself clear.

Another point was you might be making it too complicated for the size of the phone install. You dont alway's need to get all Fancy Shmancy. haha

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Michael D Mosier

FtOCC Tech Certified
M2M Communications (a TSG company)
We would love to help you with your trixbox needs in Houston and Surrounding areas.
michael@m2mcom.net
832-715-6981



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
I do agree about might be

I do agree about might be making it too difficult for the size but we are 25 seats. I have already purchased all the equipment so I certainly want to use it.

Kerry - I'll do a clean install this weekend and hope I can be back up and running correctly. I understand that you want to troubleshoot this thing without the Sangoma card but please note that I am having a PRI installed on Monday and will absolutely need that card to be functioning with the rest of the system.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
I am not suggesting NOT

I am not suggesting NOT putting the card back in, just get it working without the card, then install the card after the system is running.



AlexQ
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2006-08-23
I have the same problem

Do you find the way to resolve this problem?

We buy a trixbox PRO appliance too, but when we activate it with an user and password already configured, the LAN NIC IP address just displays "none"

How do you do to resolve this case? Any help we will appreciate it.

Alex Q



jeffworden
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2008-03-11
Alex - Please check out

Alex -

Please check out this forum -

http://trixbox.org/forums/trixbox-pro/trixbox-pro-help/new-trixbo...

It offers help to the same problem if you're experienced with Linux.



AlexQ
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2006-08-23
Thanks Jeff

Thanks for you quick response, i was checking it and look like similar case, i will apply the recommendations posted there and let you now if this work.

Alex Q



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