Disable callerid in Hudlite client

jreineke
Posts: 19
Member Since:
2007-06-21

Is there a way to disable callerid in the Hudlite client? I would like to roll this out to more users because of the Outlook integration, but I don't want our employees to see who the CEO or CFO is talking to, only that they are on the phone.

I've looked in the users.xml, features.xml, and the Trixbox configuration page, but I don't see anywhere to configure this.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Josh



kerryg
Posts: 5545
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2006-05-31
No, even in the Pro version

No, even in the Pro version you cannot do this. We really have never had any requests to disable this in the past.



ofis
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-01-13
Strange, thats important

Thats a k.o criterium for my company. It must be possible to hide those infos from the rest of the users otherwise privacy is not any more existing.
Especially, the first argument is important, not everybody should see, who and when the CEO is calling.
Please think about implementing this feature...

Thanks,
Heiko



kerryg
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2006-05-31
if you had trixbox Pro EE or

if you had trixbox Pro EE or CCE you could just hide the CEO's status from everyone using group permissions, but you can't go down to the caller id level and block things.



Tmack0
Posts: 4
Member Since:
2007-10-12
Ditto here with hiding the numbers

Im surprised there isnt a setting to turn that off. Its holding me back from deploying for the same reasons listed above: certain people (CEO, Lawyers, PR) have to keep who they are calling secret. Simply turning off their call status wouldnt work, since it is still important to see IF the CEO is on the phone before trying to call them sometimes, rather than annoy them with another ringing line while in the middle of something important. We just dont need the whole company knowing WHO they are talking to.

thanks
T



kerryg
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2006-05-31
Our lawyers, CEO, PR, and

Our lawyers, CEO, PR, and directors have no problem with it but I can appreciate your situation. It simply isn't requested enough for us to build that option in. With thousands of systems I think I have seen this come up 3 times. We have it on our list and will track future requests for it.



qisjohn
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2007-10-25
Same here

We're running into the same issue. We can't deploy HUDlite to all of our employees because of the CEO privacy issue. I think what we would like to see is some kind of privacy / VIP flag that can be set per-extension, and nobody would be able to see who that person was talking to.



charding
Posts: 92
Member Since:
2007-08-22
Four times in this post

Well, if it has only come up three times in the past, then you should reconsider because it has come up four times in this one post. My company also has serious issue with everyones call being presented on HUD. It is fine for some, but not for others within the company. Please consider a simple on/off switch for the display of that information.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
I actually just sat down

I actually just sat down with one of the engineers and got it explained to me. The group permission is called "see callers details". So in Pro EE/CCE you can create management groups and regular user group and then by controlling who has access to see other people call details you can prevent people from seeing who someone is talking to. It's a little tricky to setup which is why I didn't think it was there. I apologize for the confusion.



charding
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2007-08-22
Caller details

Sounds like the feature is there. How do we use it? Is there a manual or tutorial on it?



kerryg
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2006-05-31
it is only in trixbox Pro EE

it is only in trixbox Pro EE or CCE, if you have those you manage permissions in the Group section.



tullista
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-04-18
I installed Trixbox CE in a

I installed Trixbox CE in a lawyer office, and they also want that the called number is not seen. For all users. They will check if it is allowd to see the called number with the Austrian employment law (I think european employment law is much stronger than in USA - except UK).
If it is compliant with the law we have to deinstall that.
So a flag per extension if a called number is displayed or not, would be very fine.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
You cannot control caller ID

You cannot control caller ID display in HUDlite.



tullista
Posts: 2
Member Since:
2007-04-18
If you want to use Hudlite

If you want to use Hudlite in Austria (I think that is similar in EU) you need to have an agreement with the staff association or with each user.



kjohnsoncda
Posts: 36
Member Since:
2007-04-18
The display of caller ID

The display of caller ID info for all users is a show stopper for us. Even though we're a local government, and we're supposed to be as transparent as possible, it's a bit too voyeuristic and our department heads won't approve of using it.

This issue frustrating - simply because Hudlite is so close to qualifying as the "killer app" that showcases the possible integration of PC and Phone on this platform. We've changed out hundreds of phones from our old Meridian to our new Trixbox system, and we are constantly asked why the "new phones are better". We've settled on the canned answer of "The new phones are black!?"

We'd happily pay a reasonable per extension fee for Hud pro - as long as it installable into a TrixboxCE environment.

I've tried manually removing certain extensions from the /etc/asterisk/hud/users.xml as a workaround, but it keeps repopulating the file with any phone that registers.

Aside from this issue, and not being able to sort users into groups, testing has shown it to be a reliable software package, as compared to other (somewhat) similar products such as outcall.

Lastly - where do the chat logs get written to?

Again, great product, so close to being perfect for what we need.

Kirk.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
Unfortunately there is no

Unfortunately there is no way to disable the calling information in HUDlite although you can in the Pro EE/CCE version.

The chat logs are written to the local harddrive where the client is installed. I believe it is based on the user login. I would have to dig around for it, not sure exactly where it is off the top of my head.



kruemel
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2008-01-21
same problem

HudLite is a what we have looked for to make a PBX complete.

But with this "feature" that everybody can see who is calling whom, we can't roll it out.

Please put in a switch to hide caller IDs and called numbers

kruemel



markwho
Posts: 645
Member Since:
2006-09-24
I agree that Hudlite needs

I agree that Hudlite needs the ability to turn off caller ID. Some of our clients have called this a no-deal to use hudlite in these scenarios:

Insurance agents. Large firm. Big competition between sales people. Don't want other sales agents getting their phone numbers.

Car Dealership (same as above)

Doctors' offices. Doctors are running scared of the new privacy laws. Even though this may not be in violation of the Government's law, they don't want to risk anything that they feel might get them sued by a patient. (Read all the Office for Civil Rights - HIPAA privacy laws)

Pharmacies.[/b] Same as doctors.

Lawyer's office

Government subcontractor who does nuclear weapons disassembly and storage

The idea of EVERYONE seeing the caller ID at their places of operations makes for a very interesting sound (extreme butt puckering as the butt pucker pulls on the leather in the seat in which they are sitting.)

At least offer a download version where you have commented out this feature! That can't be too difficult. Keeps you from doing all the programming to put it as a toggle feature (which would be excellent by the way!)

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Mark



markwho
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Member Since:
2006-09-24
Test the waters!!!

I bet if you put this out to all the people who use hudlite and who would like to use hudlite, you would get more than 3 or 4 requests for caller ID toggle function.

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Mark



wtodd
Posts: 284
Member Since:
2007-04-29
on off switch for extensions too

While you are looking at hudlite and the various possible switches, in the admin module, it would also be nice to have some on/off switches ( a tick box maybe - which is on by default ) so that some extensions can be removed from the display alltogether.

In our case, the intercom lines (each phone has one) take up tons of space and it gets confusing chasing though the hudlite for which is the "real" line amongst all the decoys.

Hope you find this useful.



kerryg
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2006-05-31
Intercom lines? Why do you

Intercom lines? Why do you have a seperate extension for intercom?



phonebuff
Posts: 346
Member Since:
2007-02-15
Intercom Lines / Caller ID and other things --

Kerry,

I have 30+ Csico 7940/7960/7970 phones and to get the Phone to go off hook and autoanswer / Intercom I had to assign a seperate extension. It would be nice to not have these or some of the principals extensions loaded on all HUDLite displays.

I also would vote for a switch to hide the inbound Caller Id.....
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PS: Still have the MS Trust Issue with HUDLite and Office 2003.



wtodd
Posts: 284
Member Since:
2007-04-29
cisco phones

on all the cisco phones we assign one line auto answer intercom function.
ties up a line.

p.s. they make great ( but expensive ) baby monitors too ; )

oh and fyi; i also am experience the trust issue with office 12



rjdalejr
Posts: 15
Member Since:
2007-12-10
I also cannot deploy HudLite

I also cannot deploy HudLite due to privacy issues. It's really a shame since our users really need most of its funtionality. We need the ability to hide or mask inbound and outbound CID. Without that ability, HUD will never see the light of day in our organization :(



QuarticsJeff
Posts: 1
Member Since:
2007-10-12
May have to un-deploy

Just got done deploying hudlite and I may have to remove it. The first three comments I got from end users was their concern about being able to see the phone numbers on other peoples calls...



ronald.lew
Posts: 24
Member Since:
2007-10-30
Intercom lines are used in

Intercom lines are used in our company as well. They are quick way to page someone if it's not an important issue vs paging someone on the loud speaker.

As for the Hudlite callerid hiding issue, it is a nice feature our company would like as well.

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--Ron
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There will be no bootleggers if everything is open source.



blockparty
Posts: 54
Member Since:
2007-01-07
Seems to me

Seems to me there should be a few option under the extensions.

Display Ext in HUD: YES/NO

Display Ext Call Info in HUD: YES/NO

Those 2 alone would be huge. Also, Would think these settings should apply to the FOP as well. I assume if you don't want it in HUD you would not want it in the FOP as well.



ctfdev
Posts: 7
Member Since:
2008-03-14
One man's meat...

I actually stumbled onto this thread whilst looking for a solution to the inbound CID not appearing correctly in HUD.

Adding my request/vote for toggle switches to display the CID of other people's calls in the extension status. Even better would be some sort of permissions based control, but a toggle would be a great first step.

We currently have 2 offices deployed on TB and are looking at another 12. The display of call info is a *huge* problem for many of our executives and especially our lawyers. They don't want any hints as to the deals we are doing.

(Setting aside for a moment the fact that call accounting gives you all of that info and more, I suppose the issue is more of a real-time intelligence thing as well as privacy concerns.)

Just my 2c.



kerryg
Posts: 5545
Member Since:
2006-05-31
We understand the concern

We understand the concern and it is on the to-do list for HUDlite 3.



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